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vicpolky · Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 2:46 pm Post subject:

Thought it was about time I stuck up some pics of our '68 that we got last November. Thanks to everyone for all of your help and advice so far.

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1968 Porsche 912
1962 VW 1500
1965 VW Type 1

ratty · Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:55 pm Post subject: 1968 Cars - SRR97F

Recent acquisition via Max at Revival.

Ex Andy Prill restoration, still benefitting from the quality of that.
his own car for a while after resto.

I've repainted the rear lid & bonnet, had the rear floorpans done
and sorted a dodgy bit base of right front wing.

Replaced the hornpush , gearknob , radio , number plates & rear over-riders with correct period items ... but !!! there's some things strike me as odd

perhaps should be raised elsewhere ( let me know ) :

The engine grill & lid seem to be '69' style open aperture , 3 bar grill
but I've seen other F-Redg 912's with centre bar lids & bolt-together grills
and even a 68 911L with a centrebarless lid but bolt-together grill
so could mine be a '69' built 68 ?

also the rear arches are flared a little , wouldn't they be unflared on a short wheelbase car ??

sooooooo ... is this a '69' car made 1968 perhaps ?
or loads of later bits ended up on a 68?

Cheers for any clues ! John M (ratty)

i include a couple of pics of other '68 cars for illustration

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Current crush :

1968 slate grey 912 ex Andy Prill

Past loves :

1972 911 2.4'S' RHD
1972 bmw 2000 Touring
1971 2002 tii
1985 Caterham 7 Supersprint
1983 Mk1 Golf GTi ( multiple )
1987 325i

ian gunney · Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:21 pm Post subject:

Hi John

couple of observations - it would have been unusual for a 68 car to have had the plain chrome overriders - if the car was a US car, it would have had rubber covered ones as standard in 68 (although, I guess, plain ones would have been optional)

re the rear lid - as I recall, they changed mid 68 so depending when the car was built....

re the rear wings - I don't think that any SWB car had flared rear arches as standard but would be interested in other peoples thoughts.

mind you, I think slate grey looks great!

Ian
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'66 912 coupe in polo red - my little car for the last 12 years!

'72 914-6GT replica - 2.7 - big arches - very noisy.

'60 356B Coupe - the old man's latest project.

'60 Standard Tractor - my latest project!

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ratty · Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:07 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the observations Ian

Slate grey is the original colour , so at least that's right

flared wings might be wrong then, shame as I love the earlier looking cars most

I have a bolt-together grill I picked up from Pasadena, which spookily when I look in the history , is where the car is originally from ...

I also have a '69 chrome 3-bar grill coming while I strip off the black paint from this one.

I'd rather fit the bolt-together , but the chrome 3-bars also look good

yep , agree re rubber over-rider covers , although I thought the rubber was optional & un rubbered standard; most cars have rubber so I'll most likely fit some.

when you say the lid changed mid '68 , do you think the aperture opening out coincided exactly with the new '69' 3-bar grill ?

or could some cars at the cross-over have open aperture & bolt - together grill like the 68 in Dr Johnson's book ? see b&w photo above.

Dr Johnson page 30 mentions a second type of bolt-together then the 3-bar in '69 only'

anyway , it drives like heaven , I truly prefer it to the 911 2.4'S' I had a few years ago, makes me want to rag it hard with a manic grin , where the 911 made me cautious , always making the weight of the engine known.

I bought her to pootle about , but find myself hooning like a boy racer ...
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Current crush :

1968 slate grey 912 ex Andy Prill

Past loves :

1972 911 2.4'S' RHD
1972 bmw 2000 Touring
1971 2002 tii
1985 Caterham 7 Supersprint
1983 Mk1 Golf GTi ( multiple )
1987 325i

ian gunney · Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:06 pm Post subject:

Hi John

just checked the Brett Johnson book - as you say, it talks about a '69 only grille too.

Funnily enough, about 8 years ago, my '12 shared garage space with my fathers 2.2S - which, if truth be known, I never particularly liked! 912's are great fun and at much more legal speeds!!

Ian
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'66 912 coupe in polo red - my little car for the last 12 years!

'72 914-6GT replica - 2.7 - big arches - very noisy.

'60 356B Coupe - the old man's latest project.

'60 Standard Tractor - my latest project!

redcastleclassics.com

ratty · Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:39 pm Post subject:

bet the 2.2S sounded good at full chat though ...

the 2.4S sounded like the devil had accidentally stepped on his pet devil leopard and that was on MFI not even carbs : )

Slate grey was good enough for Steve McQueen so it's good enough for me

now i think about it ... that would be weird being a swb rear wing but flared .... surely the flares came when they changed the wheelbase ... maybe the arches were rotten and flared repair panels were fitted to a swb wing ? odd

wonder if any swb cars got on open aperture lid & 3-bar grill ? somebody knows ... but Josh Sadler and Roger Bray didn't 'cos I've asked them already Smile

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Current crush :

1968 slate grey 912 ex Andy Prill

Past loves :

1972 911 2.4'S' RHD
1972 bmw 2000 Touring
1971 2002 tii
1985 Caterham 7 Supersprint
1983 Mk1 Golf GTi ( multiple )
1987 325i

912uk · Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:00 pm Post subject:

great looking car.. I see what you mean there are a few mixed up things.. who knows who cares.. Laughing

Yep 69 grills are one year old I have two in my parts bin. I need to stop collecting things.. I will get round to dishing them up some time..

I do love the slate grey... very nice..
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1954 356 1300 Super
1965 912 Painted Dash
1966 912 3 dail Dash
1968 912
1969 912 LWB
1971 280SE MBZ
1992 944 Cab
2001 Audi A4 Tdi
2002 Ford Ka ( F O R S A L E £900 )
2005 VW T5 Van
2005 VW T5 Sports Camper
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ratty · Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:06 pm Post subject:

know what you mean , I have 3 grills and two steering wheels already and I'm thinking someone somewhere surely needs these on their car not on my garage wall
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Current crush :

1968 slate grey 912 ex Andy Prill

Past loves :

1972 911 2.4'S' RHD
1972 bmw 2000 Touring
1971 2002 tii
1985 Caterham 7 Supersprint
1983 Mk1 Golf GTi ( multiple )
1987 325i

912uk · Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:26 pm Post subject:

how bigs your garage wall??? LOL as for steering wheels oh dear I had a soft spot for them about 5 years ago and er bought alot.. well I have a 60ft wall to cover Rolling Eyes

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1954 356 1300 Super
1965 912 Painted Dash
1966 912 3 dail Dash
1968 912
1969 912 LWB
1971 280SE MBZ
1992 944 Cab
2001 Audi A4 Tdi
2002 Ford Ka ( F O R S A L E £900 )
2005 VW T5 Van
2005 VW T5 Sports Camper
www.making-interiors.com

Stuart · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:03 am Post subject:

Here's the info i got when I was trying to sort out my engine grill:

http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19671&highlight=engine+grill

The car looks great in slate grey - one of my favourite colours!

I'm pretty sure flared arches wouldnt fit onto a SWB? but as you say they might be repair panels, but you would probably be able to see some evidence of the repair? Someone somewhere can probably tell you when it was build from the VIN - that could give you a good idea if was a 'cross over' car where they used bits from both SWB & LWB's.

As Mark says though 'who cares?!'. Keep on enjoying it! Laughing

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Stuart

1969 912 Targa
1970 914 project
2009 BMW 325d Coupe
2009 Golf GTD

vicpolky · Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:02 am Post subject:

Lovely looking car - I agree with the others, just enjoy it Cool

If you do ever want to swap out the plain over riders though, I'll swap you for my set with the rubbers on.

Vic
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1968 Porsche 912
1962 VW 1500
1965 VW Type 1

Fitz · Newbie Joined: 13 Dec 2008 Posts: 26 Location: Essex

Have you considered contacting Andy (Prill) regarding the rear wing flares, as he restored it (I believe this is the car that got Andy into Porsches to start with but I may be wrong) surely he would be the most ikely to shed some light on this discrepancy.

He always seems to be willing to share his knowledge with us mere mortals Smile

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Anthony

1966 912

ian gunney · Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:28 pm Post subject:

Anthony's right - this was Mr Prill's first Porsche - there was an article on it in 911&P world if I recall correctly many years ago.
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'66 912 coupe in polo red - my little car for the last 12 years!

'72 914-6GT replica - 2.7 - big arches - very noisy.

'60 356B Coupe - the old man's latest project.

'60 Standard Tractor - my latest project!

redcastleclassics.com

ratty · Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:13 pm Post subject:

Hi Guys , I did speak to Andy and he remembers the car very fondly
he told me everything about the engine build ( which is a cracker )
but regarding the bodily restoration he said basically he restored 'everything' over 2 years before traeting the shell in some paint the use on Harrier jump jets to prevent corrosion ( we'll see ! )
but he couldn't remember absolute details regarding changed engine lids etc
might just add rubber to the over-riders & chrome grill 3-bar, slightly lower then that'll do I reckon
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Current crush :

1968 slate grey 912 ex Andy Prill

Past loves :

1972 911 2.4'S' RHD
1972 bmw 2000 Touring
1971 2002 tii
1985 Caterham 7 Supersprint
1983 Mk1 Golf GTi ( multiple )
1987 325i

crankandpiston · Newbie Joined: 18 May 2010 Posts: 6 Location: Dubai

Still no news on my side - 48 degrees is just to uncomfortable to work in...